“[T]he human race is almost extinguished because he refuses to believe that he needs to be accountable.”
And then he decides he (and therefore, of course, everyone else) does. Stark’s position in Civil War very much grows out of this film and his own stories, as he looks for something external to restrain him after his previous efforts at self-restraint repeatedly fail with the costs largely being borne by others..
But that one is also fundamentally a conflict between realism and genre: there are excellent reasons why in reality things like vigilantism and unaccountable power are bad and why we incorporate the use of violence into formal structures with prescribed limits. (Which still are frequently far from sufficient to prevent abuse.) But unaccountable violent power is also pretty close to definitionally what superheroes are about.
Cap knows that. And because he’s Cap, he won’t sign an agreement he knows he’ll break if (when)the need arises. (As sure as he went AWOL in WWII to mount a rescue mission, as sure as he wound up telling SHIELD “No, you move.”)
Tony doesn’t want to know it. But of course Tony will be illegally crossing a border to break into a secure facility before the ink is quite dry on the Sokovia Accords. (As will Steve- but he knew himself well enough not to put his name to a promise not to do that sort of thing.)
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“[T]he human race is almost extinguished because he refuses to believe that he needs to be accountable.”
And then he decides he (and therefore, of course, everyone else) does. Stark’s position in Civil War very much grows out of this film and his own stories, as he looks for something external to restrain him after his previous efforts at self-restraint repeatedly fail with the costs largely being borne by others..
But that one is also fundamentally a conflict between realism and genre: there are excellent reasons why in reality things like vigilantism and unaccountable power are bad and why we incorporate the use of violence into formal structures with prescribed limits. (Which still are frequently far from sufficient to prevent abuse.) But unaccountable violent power is also pretty close to definitionally what superheroes are about.
Cap knows that. And because he’s Cap, he won’t sign an agreement he knows he’ll break if (when)the need arises. (As sure as he went AWOL in WWII to mount a rescue mission, as sure as he wound up telling SHIELD “No, you move.”)
Tony doesn’t want to know it. But of course Tony will be illegally crossing a border to break into a secure facility before the ink is quite dry on the Sokovia Accords. (As will Steve- but he knew himself well enough not to put his name to a promise not to do that sort of thing.)