Fan Feelings and Friends
Sep. 22nd, 2018 06:56 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
pigtailed_goddess I'm finding it really hard to express myself lately. Low self-esteem and depression combo. I've got some great offline friends who I've been movie watching with, and it's nice to talk fannish interests and not feel alone in that hobby but I got into an argument with them over superheros and Iron Man and Seven Sisters lol and it's really highlighted a difference in how we approach films.
Basically they identify emotionally with characters and films. If there is a visual or concept they love in the movie, it's an awesome movie full stop. Character reminds them of their own personality, they are like "It's MEE" (and assigning you a role too lol). Love an actor for a previous ship or role, he's the best thing about all movies he's in.
They dislike it alot when someone (aka sometimes me) analysis's or critics. At all. If they love it they view it as an attack on them if I don't agree or if I bring up plot holes, themes, stuff I thought works versus doesn't, why Tony's character arc bothers, etc. It even extends in that even if Im liking something they find it weird that I notice or like it because of themes and plot or how I relate it to external influences. ex : intent behind a visual or like the way Get Out isn't just a horror film but is full of nods about racism, with the scene where you have that visercal fear when the cop car pulls up at the end because in society right now ( and forever boo) your relating it to black people aren't saved by cops, they are shot.
Is it a Watsonian versus Doylist viewing?
I dont care what you like. I love listening to why or how people relate to media. And I can drop a convo if u dont wanna talk about it, because while I won't agree, it's very rarely personal for me. Im not going out of my way to harp or bring it up unprompted. Morality and film logic I have a harder time letting go on... something about superheros and the morals of good versus bad actions, perception versus actuality, and how it applies outside of movie fantasy to how people idolize or act in the world really is a sore spot. Smallville what did you do to me. Or clear logic problems in a film you have to willfully ignore. Like Seven Sisters' assine plot that a society JUST HAS TO kill multiples of children/people born, so our main characters live in secret, but has no stigmas attached to reproduction. Or they have extreme tracking and observation tech to monitor citizens but not enough to notice several distinct hairstyle differences or that seven people would consume more than one.
I cant blindly watch a film or ignore what Im viewing. I enjoy watching movies and characters precisely because of analysis or deeper themes. Like those tidbits of character, or what it's consumption in the world says about people. The neat touches and work that go into the thought behind a film/ work too.
I dont feel very respected to be told to turn off my thinking brain. Im wandering how to bridge this divide? Like, I dont wanna harsh a squee but I also don't want to ignore how I feel on things.
What do I do?
Basically they identify emotionally with characters and films. If there is a visual or concept they love in the movie, it's an awesome movie full stop. Character reminds them of their own personality, they are like "It's MEE" (and assigning you a role too lol). Love an actor for a previous ship or role, he's the best thing about all movies he's in.
They dislike it alot when someone (aka sometimes me) analysis's or critics. At all. If they love it they view it as an attack on them if I don't agree or if I bring up plot holes, themes, stuff I thought works versus doesn't, why Tony's character arc bothers, etc. It even extends in that even if Im liking something they find it weird that I notice or like it because of themes and plot or how I relate it to external influences. ex : intent behind a visual or like the way Get Out isn't just a horror film but is full of nods about racism, with the scene where you have that visercal fear when the cop car pulls up at the end because in society right now ( and forever boo) your relating it to black people aren't saved by cops, they are shot.
Is it a Watsonian versus Doylist viewing?
I dont care what you like. I love listening to why or how people relate to media. And I can drop a convo if u dont wanna talk about it, because while I won't agree, it's very rarely personal for me. Im not going out of my way to harp or bring it up unprompted. Morality and film logic I have a harder time letting go on... something about superheros and the morals of good versus bad actions, perception versus actuality, and how it applies outside of movie fantasy to how people idolize or act in the world really is a sore spot. Smallville what did you do to me. Or clear logic problems in a film you have to willfully ignore. Like Seven Sisters' assine plot that a society JUST HAS TO kill multiples of children/people born, so our main characters live in secret, but has no stigmas attached to reproduction. Or they have extreme tracking and observation tech to monitor citizens but not enough to notice several distinct hairstyle differences or that seven people would consume more than one.
I cant blindly watch a film or ignore what Im viewing. I enjoy watching movies and characters precisely because of analysis or deeper themes. Like those tidbits of character, or what it's consumption in the world says about people. The neat touches and work that go into the thought behind a film/ work too.
I dont feel very respected to be told to turn off my thinking brain. Im wandering how to bridge this divide? Like, I dont wanna harsh a squee but I also don't want to ignore how I feel on things.
What do I do?
